Prueba: Citroen DS3 1.6THP
ITL
18-abr-2010 15:52
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 Introducción. The Citroën DS3 exists for two reasons. The first is a need to counter the firm’s own decade-old push downmarket, a trend that has taken it into direct competition with Far Eastern brands such as Kia and Hyundai. And the second is to capitalise on the burgeoning market for premium-feel, customisable small hatchbacks created by Mini. Chic, small runabouts used to be home turf for French manufacturers. But over the past decade Mini – or rather, BMW – has opened up fresh, profitable sales in that area. More recently, Fiat has jumped on the bandwagon with the 500. And now Audi is itching to get involved, with the A1 that’s due later this year. So the DS3 faces a major task. It must feel considerably plusher than the C3 on which it’s based, deliver a driving experience that can at least push the Mini close on dynamics, offer enough customisation and options to satisfy the buyer in search of ‘individuality’, and still stay competitive on price. Only a blend of all four will justify bringing the classic DS badge out of retirement.  Diseño. Citroën has taken the underpinnings from the regular five-door C3, tweaked the suspension settings and slightly stretched the wheelbase, then plonked a more daring, three-door body on top. The result is a car that, bizarrely, is longer than the five-door (by just 88mm). It is considerably more lengthy than the Mini (by 249mm) but slightly shorter than the Alfa Romeo Mito (by 115mm). Its claimed kerb weight – 1165kg in this car’s trim, although it weighed 1200kg on our scales – is within 20kg of the equivalent Mito and actually 40kg under a Mini Cooper S. That’s in the ballpark as far as small, sporty hatchbacks go, then. The engine line-up consists of three petrol engines – a 1.4 with 94bhp, a 1.6 with 118bhp and the turbocharged 1.6 tested here, with 154bhp – and a pair of 1.6-litre turbodiesels offering 91bhp and 110bhp. All models get five-speed manual gearboxes as standard, apart from the petrol and diesel range-toppers, which feature six-speed units. There is no auto option. Externally, the most striking design cues are inset LED strip lights in the front bumper and a ‘reversed’ B-pillar that points up from rear to front. It also falls shy of the roof, allowing buyers to choose between a floating roofline or have the lid disappear altogether by opting for a black finish. There are four trim levels: entry-level DSign, mid-range DStyle and DStyle 99g (the latter with the lesser diesel engine only), and range-topping DSport, which can be had only in conjunction with the 154bhp petrol and 110bhp diesel engines. Standard equipment on DSport models is relatively generous, but customisation is a core element of the new DS brand. You can spec the roof with colours and graphics, and choose different door mirrors, side strips, wheels and even the key fob.  En carretera. In this state of tune, the PSA/BMW 1.6-litre petrol engine produces 154bhp; that’s closer to the Mini Cooper S’s level of grunt than a mere Cooper’s, and the performance backs that up. Which is to say that the turbocharged DS3 does feel like a hot supermini rather than a fashion item. Citroën claims a 0-62mph time of 7.3sec, and our 0-60mph time of 7.7sec – set on a slightly damp test track – supports that. This pace is comfortably clear of the Mini Cooper and only slightly shy of the Cooper S. What impresses most is the manner of the power delivery; not chasing a headline figure has allowed Citroën to give the THP unit an excellent spread of power and torque, to the point where it really doesn’t feel like a turbocharged powerplant. Peak torque arrives from 1400rpm, but you can rev through to well over 5500rpm before you’ll feel any great degree of tightening. There’s no turbocharged surge, just an impressively flat torque curve. The motor’s smooth thrum appeals, too. This sweetness and linearity comes at a price, though; the Cooper S takes no prisoners on in-gear acceleration, and with its softer approach the DS3 simply can’t match it. In fact, it’s over three seconds slower between 50mph and 70mph in sixth gear. In truth, though, the DS3 rarely feels as slow as this figure suggests. And should you want to overtake in a hurry – or you just fancy getting involved – the transmission surprises by adding to the experience. We’re still not entirely convinced by Citroën’s five-speed gearboxes, which often feel sloppy even when new. But the six-speed unit in this car is a revelation for the brand; it’s slick and precise, with a positive action. More basic DS3s make do with drum brakes at the rear, but this model gets discs all round (283mm ventilated items up front, 249mm solid ones at the rear). Overall stopping power is excellent; we were particularly impressed with its stability during wet braking, and the overall figures are better than both the Mini and the Mito can manage. What’s more, there’s greater pedal feel than in any other Citroën of our recent acquaintance. Citroën could be on a sticky wicket here. For while it has long been known for giving its vehicles a soothing ride, dynamic ability has been much further down the list of priorities. Against Mini’s ultra-sharp Cooper S and even the Alfa Romeo Mito, that approach would be swiftly punished. Sure enough, more restrained DS3s that we’ve experienced have majored on comfort rather than agility. But the DSport tested here has a more highly tuned version of the same suspension set-up (MacPherson struts up front, torsion beam at the rear). The results are impressive; it is hard to believe this car is related to the comfy but clumsy C3. The front end is quick to settle upon turn-in (even if the initial bite is a little slower than in a Mini or a Ford Fiesta), and the DS3 remains stoically composed thereafter. Body control is excellent. Occasionally – but only when really pushing on – you may encounter a little understeer, but a brief lift of the throttle is usually enough to bring the rear end around and nudge the nose back towards the inside of the corner. And anything approaching a slide is dealt with in a friendly, progressive fashion by the subtle stability control system. Citroën regulars will probably find the ride a little firm, but it remains well judged. Occasionally the torsion beam rear end gives itself away with a unified jolt over a pothole, and road noise is more pronounced than in the C3, but on the whole the DS3 is more compliant than a Mini. The steering could probably use a little more feel, but it still manages to be smooth, precise and consistent, without ever transmitting the sort of tugging kickback so common in a Mini Cooper S. So while you are slightly further away from what’s going on than in BMW’s offering – or a Fiesta, for that matter – most drivers are unlikely to mind too much.  Interior. Anyone expecting a night-and-day transformation from the C3 in the DS3’s cabin is likely to feel mild disappointment. True, the freer options list allows buyers to play with the colours of the fascia and gearknob (shiny piano black plastic being fitted to our test car) and there are more seat fabrics to choose from than usual. But the view from the driver’s seat is still remarkably similar to the one you’ll find in the C3. That’s not an unforgiveable sin, because the five-door’s dash is already one of the most appealing in the class. But it does make the move upmarket all the tougher. Sure enough, the budget clearly didn’t stretch to higher-grade plastics for the bottom of the fascia, the aux-in and 12V sockets are covered by cheap black plastic flaps, and the glovebox feels flimsy. The Mini may have similar flaws, but it does a much better job of hiding them.  The driving position is slightly offset, but on the whole we had few problems settling into the front cabin. The seats do major on comfort rather than lateral support, though. In the rear, the DS3’s extra size over a Mini translates into a useful advantage in knee and leg room. This can be helped further if the front passenger makes use of the space freed up by the deeply scalloped glovebox to push the seat forward.  But the overall level of rear accommodation is still compromised, this time by a low roofline. Anyone north of 6ft tall will find it cramped in the rear seats. At least boot space, at 285 litres, is well clear of a Mini’s. Our DSport came with the £1100 MyWay City Signature option pack, which adds sat-nav, mood lighting, automatic headlights and wipers, an auto-dipping rear-view mirror, rear parking sensors and an infuriatingly squeaky centre armrest. Plenty of DS3s will cost more than £17,500; Citroën is counting on as much.  The scope for customisation means DS3 buyers may have to show restraint with options if they want to preserve resale values. But then Minis have faced (and overcome) similar issues. Indeed, the figures suggest that the DS3’s trendy image will do it no harm when it comes to selling it on; its predicted residuals are on a par with the Mini, at 55 per cent after three years, putting Citroën’s offering some way clear of the Alfa Mito. The DS3’s free-revving powerplant meant that it rarely had an easy run during its time with us; with this in mind, a test average of 35.8mpg is more than respectable.  Veredicto. It would be easy to dismiss the DS3 as a cynical attempt to harness a classic model’s reputation and ramp up the eventual sticker prices by offering a lengthy options list. But to do so would be to dismiss what is comfortably the most convincing performance car from Citroën in a generation. The company’s cleverest move with the DS3 has been not to aim too high. No, it is neither as quick nor as involving as a Mini Cooper S. But it offers a compelling blend of usable pace, a smooth, powerful drivetrain and well balanced handling that has the capacity to entertain while offering no nasty surprises. It is also more than £1000 cheaper than the Mini. Flaws remain — we’d like to see greater distance between its cabin and those of lesser Citroëns, for example — but the DS3 is a promising, appealing way to kick-start a new sub-brand.  Prestaciones.  Video. Fuente: http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...DSport/247915/ |
ForoCoches: Miembro
18-abr-2010 16:28
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En Coche actual viene esta semana una del HDI 90cv y sobre todo en tema de acabados le ponen fenomenal. Gracias por la prueba. Un saludo. |
ex205 GTX
18-abr-2010 16:45
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Es que ese es rojo, no amarillo. El amarillo si que hace el 0 a 100 en 6,98s. Gracias por la prueba hamijouu! |
ForoCoches: Miembro
18-abr-2010 16:51
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Por dentro da sensación de calidad, muy bonito. Añadiendo el Pack My Way Confort (que lleva una barbaridad de extras) y la pintura metalizada, se va a algo más de 21000 euros. Eso sí, ni faros de xenon ni cambio automático. Para los que no prioricen esos extras parece una opción cojonuda. Alguien ha pedido algún presupuesto para saber si se puede bajar algo el precio de tarifa? |
18-abr-2010 16:52
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A mi me gusta y parece ser que lo de los 6´98 segundos es verdad; eso si la unidad daba 21 CV mas que lo que decia la marca... Saludos.. |
Forero profesional
18-abr-2010 17:09
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Me gusta, pero esos asientos no pueden llegar a ser incomodos para ciertas personas al girar el volante?  curiosamente me gusta más en amarillo y eso que odio los colores cantosos
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Enchufao
18-abr-2010 17:25
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| Me encanta este coche, lástima que las pretensiones "Chic" del DS3 eleven tanto su precio, 19mil € en algo tan pequeñito.... |
"me cago en la ostia con la mierda de firma de 2 lineas"
ForoCoches: Miembro
24-abr-2010 01:36
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no me gusta nada este coche, en persona pierde mas(aunque no lo tragaba ya en fotos) decis k tiene buena pinta en la kalidad???mmmmmmmmmmmmm ami no me parecio mucha la verdad..la tapa de la guantera parecia del todo a 100..los mandos d lluvia...de los dl volante d la radio eran los mismos k tenia mi 206 del 2002...................... |
Repent Harlequin!
24-abr-2010 01:45
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Ojala... sujetaran los del 11 lo mismo que los de este cacharro . Yo echo en falta más facilidad para acceder a la mecánica en los coches actuales de este segmento, los capots son absolutamente ridículos.
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ForoCoches: Miembro
24-abr-2010 02:04
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| Que feo sale en estas fotos!! En el vídeo dice 8.1 de 0 a 100, algo lógico la verdad. |
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prrrrrrrr
24-abr-2010 02:30
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| gran coche , interiores preciosos , pero la estetica , me parece feisima a mas sin poder , lo siento pero no me gusta nada , espero verlo en vivo para dar mi opinion final sobre la estetica , pero sin duda un gran motor y seguramente buen coche. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
24-abr-2010 02:33
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Pues a mi en estas justo me encanta, sobre todo por delante. Peero, sigo diciendo que creo que Citroën no debería haber abandonado el poner la matricula en la zona mas baja del parachoques para ponerla en el centro. Me parecían con mas personalidad con la matricula al ras del parachoques. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
24-abr-2010 02:40
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yo por lo que veo pone que el 0-100 lo hace en 7,6 segundos... en la ficha esa amarilla pone de 0-60mph,que viene a ser lo mismo no? es un coche muy muy guapo,tanto el c3 como el ds3,los vi en vivo y estan muy logrados,sobretodo el ds3 en amarillo con cuero y todo,que es el que yo vi...eso si,23000 euracos |
Compra compra!!!
24-abr-2010 03:09
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uff, no puedo tragar su diseño exterior, parece una furgonetilla. y encima caro. y extras como el xenon no pueden faltar en un coche q pretende jugar en la liga de los urbanos chic. |
ForoCoches: Miembro
24-abr-2010 03:36
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Hoy me he montado en uno y tiene un fallo para los que miden más de 1.90. El asiento baja realmente poco comparado por ejemplo con un mito. No lo han hecho para las nuevas generaciones más altas, jeje! Por lo demás, bien, es bonito, sobretodo sin colores llamativos. La trasera me recuerda un poco al antiguo Civic. |
Unbeatable
24-abr-2010 07:33
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Ay!! que cosa más bonita  Pero es que en directo pierde todavía más.. |
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Unbeatable
24-abr-2010 07:35
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Efectivamente, alrededor de 8s para las 62mph y más de 29s para los 1000m. Éste debe ser el de 150cv, no el de 175 como colaron en la publicación española y por supuesto ir de serie, como debe ser. 
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24-abr-2010 07:46
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NO tiene absolutamente nada revolucionario ni especial. Es más más el Civic, el C4, el MiTo...hay bastantes coches con una estética muy atrevida....y bonita, como como el DS3, nacido para ser.....el qué?? Qué pretende este coche? Rey en esa catagoria hay uno, el Mini. El 500 es oro buen participante, e imagino que el A1, aunque sea normalito, con eso de llamarse Audi.........tambien tendrá buenas ventas. Pero el DS3?? El de 156cv.....ademas con ese precio tan alto, no se va a comer una rosca. QUizas los motores más básicos, para gente joven o chicas con el carnet recién sacado,pues vale,pero de verdad de verdad..........os creeis que esto le va a hacer sombra al Cooper, Cooper S y al Abarth 500?? En exclusividad, ni se acerca. Ademas alardean en Citroen de que no miran al pasado, tema que sale en los anuncios de television con John Lennon y Marylin Monroe........pero si el nombre, el logo...están sacados del antiguo Tiburos!! Del Citroen DS, el de toda la vida!! Qué pretende Citroen? Exclusividad? No la va a conseguir |
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24-abr-2010 09:21
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-5gWFInlMA Pero mirarlo en marcha!!! Parece una Berlingo! Va va, esto no es serio, Citroen nos esta tomando el pelo no? Bueno, quizás la culpa no sea de Citroen y sí de algunos periodistas y foreros que están comenzando una batalla, perdida de antemano, contra el Mini y 500. Por qué?? El DS3 como turismo para la ciudad potente, esta muy muy bien, pero le falta el toque "chic", ese toque que tanto se critica pero que tan dificil es de conseguir y que a las marcas le da muuuucho dinero. Algo así como lo que tiene el Golf GTI o el Cooper S, son chic, son......un Golf, todo un Golf, y un Mini, no hay mucho mas que decir. |
Forero profesional
24-abr-2010 09:28
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NO tiene absolutamente nada revolucionario ni especial. Es más más el Civic, el C4, el MiTo...hay bastantes coches con una estética muy atrevida....y bonita, como como el DS3, nacido para ser.....el qué?? Qué pretende este coche? Rey en esa catagoria hay uno, el Mini. El 500 es oro buen participante, e imagino que el A1, aunque sea normalito, con eso de llamarse Audi.........tambien tendrá buenas ventas.
Pero el DS3?? El de 156cv.....ademas con ese precio tan alto, no se va a comer una rosca. QUizas los motores más básicos, para gente joven o chicas con el carnet recién sacado,pues vale,pero de verdad de verdad..........os creeis que esto le va a hacer sombra al Cooper, Cooper S y al Abarth 500?? En exclusividad, ni se acerca. Ademas alardean en Citroen de que no miran al pasado, tema que sale en los anuncios de television con John Lennon y Marylin Monroe........pero si el nombre, el logo...están sacados del antiguo Tiburos!! Del Citroen DS, el de toda la vida!! Qué pretende Citroen? Exclusividad? No la va a conseguir  Te olvidas de una cosa Citroen es un superventas en España y da igual que el coche sea malo o feo como decís, la mayoría de la gente cuando piensa en comprar coche mira las 4 marcas que conoce, por esta razón ya tiene mucho ganado. No sé si se venderá mucho estando el C3 nuevo pero seguro que lo va a conocer más gente que el Fiat 500 por decirte algo.
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Nortextremeño
24-abr-2010 09:29
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| A mí me da la sensación de que a los autores del artículo no les ha gustado el interior demasiado. Básicamente acaban diciendo que si esperábais algún cambio radical respecto del C3, mierda pa tós, porque aunque hay muchas opciones y telas en los asientos a elegir, la apariencia es similar a la del C3. |
